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	Comments on: Book Review: The Professor, the Banker, and the Suicide King by Michael Craig	</title>
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		By: Biggest Suckout of My Career &#171; Foucault		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] I commented a few days ago that I don’t think of myself as a gambler, don’t experience too much in the way of emotional highs and lows as a result of winning or losing money at the poker table. Big pots at 40/80 are something of an exception to that. I definitely experienced a sinking feeling in my stomach when I saw those Aces, followed quickly by a deep sense of relief and gratitude for the K on the flop, and then a few seconds of nervous anticipation, refusing to allow myself too much of an emotional high until I saw that there was no Ace coming on the turn or river. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I commented a few days ago that I don’t think of myself as a gambler, don’t experience too much in the way of emotional highs and lows as a result of winning or losing money at the poker table. Big pots at 40/80 are something of an exception to that. I definitely experienced a sinking feeling in my stomach when I saw those Aces, followed quickly by a deep sense of relief and gratitude for the K on the flop, and then a few seconds of nervous anticipation, refusing to allow myself too much of an emotional high until I saw that there was no Ace coming on the turn or river. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: foucault		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/01/book-review-the-professor-the-banker-and-the-suicide-king-by-daniel-craig/#comment-4104&quot;&gt;Fiendix&lt;/a&gt;.

Interesting points. The distinction between &quot;action&quot; and &quot;edge&quot; is a good one. Although I play poker for a living, I don&#039;t consider myself a gambler. I never touch table games, I don&#039;t bet sports or horses, and neither winning nor losing is particularly exciting to me. Obviously I like winning, but not in a thrilling, roller-coaster sort of way that I understand to be the experience of the gambler. Most importantly, I don&#039;t find losing to be exciting. I&#039;m generally far more likely to get despondent and quit than to be driven by losses to keep playing to get even, move up in stakes, etc. I think you&#039;re mountain-climbing analogy is a good one. If anything, Beal was addicted the challenge, and the money was just a tool he was using to overcome it.

Actually, it&#039;s interesting that you chose mountain climbing. The little bit that I&#039;ve read about it (primarily Krakauer&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Into Thin Air&lt;/em&gt;) makes it sound very much like an addiction/compulsion that avid climbers can barely control. It seems that at some point, virtually everyone who attempts a dangerous climb such as Everest looks back on it with regret, whether he was successful or not. They feel foolish to have taken such a crazy risk, yet they felt at the time they had no choice and would have been driven crazy if they hadn&#039;t attempted it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/01/book-review-the-professor-the-banker-and-the-suicide-king-by-daniel-craig/#comment-4104">Fiendix</a>.</p>
<p>Interesting points. The distinction between &#8220;action&#8221; and &#8220;edge&#8221; is a good one. Although I play poker for a living, I don&#8217;t consider myself a gambler. I never touch table games, I don&#8217;t bet sports or horses, and neither winning nor losing is particularly exciting to me. Obviously I like winning, but not in a thrilling, roller-coaster sort of way that I understand to be the experience of the gambler. Most importantly, I don&#8217;t find losing to be exciting. I&#8217;m generally far more likely to get despondent and quit than to be driven by losses to keep playing to get even, move up in stakes, etc. I think you&#8217;re mountain-climbing analogy is a good one. If anything, Beal was addicted the challenge, and the money was just a tool he was using to overcome it.</p>
<p>Actually, it&#8217;s interesting that you chose mountain climbing. The little bit that I&#8217;ve read about it (primarily Krakauer&#8217;s <em>Into Thin Air</em>) makes it sound very much like an addiction/compulsion that avid climbers can barely control. It seems that at some point, virtually everyone who attempts a dangerous climb such as Everest looks back on it with regret, whether he was successful or not. They feel foolish to have taken such a crazy risk, yet they felt at the time they had no choice and would have been driven crazy if they hadn&#8217;t attempted it.</p>
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		By: Fiendix		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fiendix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 00:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/01/book-review-the-professor-the-banker-and-the-suicide-king-by-daniel-craig/#comment-4102&quot;&gt;foucault&lt;/a&gt;.

Good point, the action seems to be more of a factor then &quot;edge&quot; to what and who we percieve as a gambler.  That being said the obvious attraction to the action given by the Corporation appears to be almost an addiction, as portrayed in the book, to Beal.  After more than one attempt, note unsucessful attempt, he keeps returning to the action.  The edge he may have thought he had was proven to be worthless, and yet again and again he returns to his &quot;needle&quot; of high stakes games.  Given his history of taking on a challenge and becoming the best at something it can be likened to seeing that mountain and trying to climb it no matter the odds.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/01/book-review-the-professor-the-banker-and-the-suicide-king-by-daniel-craig/#comment-4102">foucault</a>.</p>
<p>Good point, the action seems to be more of a factor then &#8220;edge&#8221; to what and who we percieve as a gambler.  That being said the obvious attraction to the action given by the Corporation appears to be almost an addiction, as portrayed in the book, to Beal.  After more than one attempt, note unsucessful attempt, he keeps returning to the action.  The edge he may have thought he had was proven to be worthless, and yet again and again he returns to his &#8220;needle&#8221; of high stakes games.  Given his history of taking on a challenge and becoming the best at something it can be likened to seeing that mountain and trying to climb it no matter the odds.</p>
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		By: John		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting metaphysical question: If you insist on an edge as opposed to just a fair bet, are you really a &quot;gambler&quot;?  Not really, I would say.  Or at least not as much of a gambler as someone who is happy just to get a fair bet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting metaphysical question: If you insist on an edge as opposed to just a fair bet, are you really a &#8220;gambler&#8221;?  Not really, I would say.  Or at least not as much of a gambler as someone who is happy just to get a fair bet.</p>
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		By: foucault		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[foucault]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/01/book-review-the-professor-the-banker-and-the-suicide-king-by-daniel-craig/#comment-4101&quot;&gt;Fiendix&lt;/a&gt;.

I think you&#039;re right on the first point, but that&#039;s why I don&#039;t consider him a &quot;gambler&quot; per se. I feel like it didn&#039;t matter to him that they were playing for money. Even when he argued over the stakes, it seemed like it was just a tool he was using to push the pros out of their comfort zone. I think of a gambler as someone who gets a rush from winning and losing money and who wants to bet on everything.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/01/book-review-the-professor-the-banker-and-the-suicide-king-by-daniel-craig/#comment-4101">Fiendix</a>.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re right on the first point, but that&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t consider him a &#8220;gambler&#8221; per se. I feel like it didn&#8217;t matter to him that they were playing for money. Even when he argued over the stakes, it seemed like it was just a tool he was using to push the pros out of their comfort zone. I think of a gambler as someone who gets a rush from winning and losing money and who wants to bet on everything.</p>
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		By: Fiendix		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fiendix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/01/book-review-the-professor-the-banker-and-the-suicide-king-by-daniel-craig/#comment-4098&quot;&gt;foucault&lt;/a&gt;.

The way that I see Beal, as portrayed in the book, is someone looking to push himself and those around him to the highest point of their skills.  

And personally, anyone that takes on some of the best players in the world in their home turf (for the most part) whilst claiming to be able to beat them is a gambler. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/01/book-review-the-professor-the-banker-and-the-suicide-king-by-daniel-craig/#comment-4098">foucault</a>.</p>
<p>The way that I see Beal, as portrayed in the book, is someone looking to push himself and those around him to the highest point of their skills.  </p>
<p>And personally, anyone that takes on some of the best players in the world in their home turf (for the most part) whilst claiming to be able to beat them is a gambler. 🙂</p>
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		By: foucault		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[foucault]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/01/book-review-the-professor-the-banker-and-the-suicide-king-by-daniel-craig/#comment-4096&quot;&gt;Pete&lt;/a&gt;.

Heh, good catch, thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/01/book-review-the-professor-the-banker-and-the-suicide-king-by-daniel-craig/#comment-4096">Pete</a>.</p>
<p>Heh, good catch, thanks.</p>
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		By: foucault		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[foucault]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/01/book-review-the-professor-the-banker-and-the-suicide-king-by-daniel-craig/#comment-4097&quot;&gt;Fiendix&lt;/a&gt;.

My thoughts exactly, well said. Actually, I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d agree that Beal is a &quot;true gambler.&quot; I&#039;m currently reading&lt;em&gt; Amarillo Slim in a World of Fat People&lt;/em&gt;, and let me tell you, that man was a gambler.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/01/book-review-the-professor-the-banker-and-the-suicide-king-by-daniel-craig/#comment-4097">Fiendix</a>.</p>
<p>My thoughts exactly, well said. Actually, I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d agree that Beal is a &#8220;true gambler.&#8221; I&#8217;m currently reading<em> Amarillo Slim in a World of Fat People</em>, and let me tell you, that man was a gambler.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fiendix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 07:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is one of the books that I make it a point, as a dedicated amateur, to read and re-read a few times a year.  To remind me the dedication it takes to make a serious run at this game. 

The interaction of the &quot;pros&quot; with a man trying to knock them off Mt. Olympus was a fascinating insight into the mindset of a true gambler.  In my opinion the lengths that BOTH parties go to trying to gain that elusive &quot;edge&quot; was worth the read for any poker player, full time or part time, professional or lackadaisical.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the books that I make it a point, as a dedicated amateur, to read and re-read a few times a year.  To remind me the dedication it takes to make a serious run at this game. </p>
<p>The interaction of the &#8220;pros&#8221; with a man trying to knock them off Mt. Olympus was a fascinating insight into the mindset of a true gambler.  In my opinion the lengths that BOTH parties go to trying to gain that elusive &#8220;edge&#8221; was worth the read for any poker player, full time or part time, professional or lackadaisical.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 01:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[By Daniel Craig?  Bond, James Bond?
So that&#039;s what billionaires do in their spare time...make homemade abacuses..]]></description>
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So that&#8217;s what billionaires do in their spare time&#8230;make homemade abacuses..</p>
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