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		By: foucault		</title>
		<link>https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/01/not-your-average-kings-vs-aces/#comment-4056</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/01/not-your-average-kings-vs-aces/#comment-4055&quot;&gt;Chris M&lt;/a&gt;.

Good question, John, and good answer, Chris (and thanks for the compliments). I feel like my hand is sufficiently transparent as not a monster, and his value range sufficiently thin, that I need to call down once he bets the flop. That&#039;s not to say that I&#039;m hoping he goes bet-bet-bet once I check the flop.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/01/not-your-average-kings-vs-aces/#comment-4055">Chris M</a>.</p>
<p>Good question, John, and good answer, Chris (and thanks for the compliments). I feel like my hand is sufficiently transparent as not a monster, and his value range sufficiently thin, that I need to call down once he bets the flop. That&#8217;s not to say that I&#8217;m hoping he goes bet-bet-bet once I check the flop.</p>
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		By: Chris M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/01/not-your-average-kings-vs-aces/#comment-4054&quot;&gt;John&lt;/a&gt;.

Our hand is face up as a non-monster, but were sorta at the top of our range once we c/c flop with KK.

Qx is a card people are going to bluff / value-bet thin if they get to the river with Qx or a missed draw, so I can&#039;t really see folding.

That being said, he has to fire turn a pretty high % with semi-bluffs/air for river call to be good, i&#039;d think.

Once we c/c flop our hand is normally 88-JJ in villains eyes.  If he&#039;s the type to 3 barrel us off our perceived weak range, i think c/c river is mandatory.  If he&#039;s going to give up on turn once we call flop w/ air, river is probably closer to a fold.

My .02c]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/01/not-your-average-kings-vs-aces/#comment-4054">John</a>.</p>
<p>Our hand is face up as a non-monster, but were sorta at the top of our range once we c/c flop with KK.</p>
<p>Qx is a card people are going to bluff / value-bet thin if they get to the river with Qx or a missed draw, so I can&#8217;t really see folding.</p>
<p>That being said, he has to fire turn a pretty high % with semi-bluffs/air for river call to be good, i&#8217;d think.</p>
<p>Once we c/c flop our hand is normally 88-JJ in villains eyes.  If he&#8217;s the type to 3 barrel us off our perceived weak range, i think c/c river is mandatory.  If he&#8217;s going to give up on turn once we call flop w/ air, river is probably closer to a fold.</p>
<p>My .02c</p>
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		By: John		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 19:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t your hand pretty face up?  Did he have reason to think you could three-bet the SB with 55?  Love the site and your writing style.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t your hand pretty face up?  Did he have reason to think you could three-bet the SB with 55?  Love the site and your writing style.</p>
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		By: foucault		</title>
		<link>https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/01/not-your-average-kings-vs-aces/#comment-4052</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/01/not-your-average-kings-vs-aces/#comment-4051&quot;&gt;Chris M&lt;/a&gt;.

No you are just smarter than me :-(]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/01/not-your-average-kings-vs-aces/#comment-4051">Chris M</a>.</p>
<p>No you are just smarter than me 🙁</p>
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		By: Chris M		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 23:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This looks pretty standard with AA vs your c/c range on this board, am I missing something?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks pretty standard with AA vs your c/c range on this board, am I missing something?</p>
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		By: foucault		</title>
		<link>https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/01/not-your-average-kings-vs-aces/#comment-4049</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/01/not-your-average-kings-vs-aces/#comment-4048&quot;&gt;Sean&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the questions, Sean and Jordan. I certainly don&#039;t expect to be good here 100% of the time, but I was expecting him to have a pretty thin value range for bet-bet-betting. Sets are certainly possible, and a straight or flopped two pair are also not out of the question. Still, I think a lot of the time he bets three streets he&#039;s bluffing. I mean, if he&#039;s calling a 3-bet with 87, making a flopped straight possible, he&#039;s probably also calling with QJ, and I wouldn&#039;t be surprised to see him player the latter this way as well.

If I bet the flop, I think he&#039;s folding a lot of second best hands and also rarely bluffing (not that I necessarily want to stack off if he calls or raised a flop bet anyway). I don&#039;t know whether my line should change if I know he can value bet more thinly here, but based on my assumptions at the time, I&#039;m pretty happy with how I played this.

Thanks for the comments, and please keep reading and responding!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/01/not-your-average-kings-vs-aces/#comment-4048">Sean</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the questions, Sean and Jordan. I certainly don&#8217;t expect to be good here 100% of the time, but I was expecting him to have a pretty thin value range for bet-bet-betting. Sets are certainly possible, and a straight or flopped two pair are also not out of the question. Still, I think a lot of the time he bets three streets he&#8217;s bluffing. I mean, if he&#8217;s calling a 3-bet with 87, making a flopped straight possible, he&#8217;s probably also calling with QJ, and I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised to see him player the latter this way as well.</p>
<p>If I bet the flop, I think he&#8217;s folding a lot of second best hands and also rarely bluffing (not that I necessarily want to stack off if he calls or raised a flop bet anyway). I don&#8217;t know whether my line should change if I know he can value bet more thinly here, but based on my assumptions at the time, I&#8217;m pretty happy with how I played this.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments, and please keep reading and responding!</p>
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		By: Sean		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Did you wonder if he had pocket 6s, 5s or 4s?  I would call re-raise sometimes with just low pockets and fold if i don&#039;t hit a case. I would keep in my mind that the re raiser has AA or KK. Your thoughts? This is my first response on your site!

Sean]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you wonder if he had pocket 6s, 5s or 4s?  I would call re-raise sometimes with just low pockets and fold if i don&#8217;t hit a case. I would keep in my mind that the re raiser has AA or KK. Your thoughts? This is my first response on your site!</p>
<p>Sean</p>
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		By: jordan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[interesting...
would you say c/c is your standard in that spot?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting&#8230;<br />
would you say c/c is your standard in that spot?</p>
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