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	Comments on: One of My Crazier Calldowns	</title>
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		By: Dangerhorse		</title>
		<link>https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/03/one-of-my-crazier-calldowns/#comment-4275</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[1) If my back-of-the-envelope calculations are correct, he *shouldn&#039;t* be calling a turn push with 6d4d.  Unless he somehow knows that spiking a 6 or a 4 will win him the pot.  So even if his hand were face-up, I don&#039;t think you could call a turn push a push for &quot;value&quot;.

2) More generally, not knowing what he had, shouldn&#039;t you expect that when he calls a turn shove he almost always has a hand that beats ace high?

Really this is all just me quibbling with your description of the play as a &quot;value&quot; shove, not so much an argument against playing the hand that way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) If my back-of-the-envelope calculations are correct, he *shouldn&#8217;t* be calling a turn push with 6d4d.  Unless he somehow knows that spiking a 6 or a 4 will win him the pot.  So even if his hand were face-up, I don&#8217;t think you could call a turn push a push for &#8220;value&#8221;.</p>
<p>2) More generally, not knowing what he had, shouldn&#8217;t you expect that when he calls a turn shove he almost always has a hand that beats ace high?</p>
<p>Really this is all just me quibbling with your description of the play as a &#8220;value&#8221; shove, not so much an argument against playing the hand that way.</p>
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		By: foucault		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/03/one-of-my-crazier-calldowns/#comment-4268&quot;&gt;Dangerhorse&lt;/a&gt;.

I think he&#039;s calling with 6d4d if I shove the turn. And if he isn&#039;t, that&#039;s good too; since he didn&#039;t shove a blank river, there&#039;s no value in letting him see the river for free.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/03/one-of-my-crazier-calldowns/#comment-4268">Dangerhorse</a>.</p>
<p>I think he&#8217;s calling with 6d4d if I shove the turn. And if he isn&#8217;t, that&#8217;s good too; since he didn&#8217;t shove a blank river, there&#8217;s no value in letting him see the river for free.</p>
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		By: Dangerhorse		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 03:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Shoving the turn for &quot;value&quot;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shoving the turn for &#8220;value&#8221;?</p>
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