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	Comments on: Mailbag: Stack Size Goals	</title>
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		By: foucault		</title>
		<link>https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2012/02/mailbag-stack-size-goals/#comment-25397</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2012/02/mailbag-stack-size-goals/#comment-25345&quot;&gt;hans&lt;/a&gt;.

If your normal raise size would pot commit you such that you could rarely or never fold pre-flop after raising, then you might as well shove. That may depend on factors such as who is behind you and the size of the antes.

Restealing is a combination of showdown equity and fold equity. The more equity you believe your hand will have against his calling range, the less fold equity you need. Generally the larger your shove, the more fold equity you have. So if the BTN min-raises I&#039;ll shove any Ace for 10BBs when I&#039;m in the BB. I don&#039;t expect much fold equity, but his options are either (a) fold often or (b) call with hands worse than Ax. Either way I win, and you might not even count that as a resteal. If I&#039;m shoving K5s I&#039;d probably want like 14-16 BBs, but that too depends on what I think of the opener and his ranges.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2012/02/mailbag-stack-size-goals/#comment-25345">hans</a>.</p>
<p>If your normal raise size would pot commit you such that you could rarely or never fold pre-flop after raising, then you might as well shove. That may depend on factors such as who is behind you and the size of the antes.</p>
<p>Restealing is a combination of showdown equity and fold equity. The more equity you believe your hand will have against his calling range, the less fold equity you need. Generally the larger your shove, the more fold equity you have. So if the BTN min-raises I&#8217;ll shove any Ace for 10BBs when I&#8217;m in the BB. I don&#8217;t expect much fold equity, but his options are either (a) fold often or (b) call with hands worse than Ax. Either way I win, and you might not even count that as a resteal. If I&#8217;m shoving K5s I&#8217;d probably want like 14-16 BBs, but that too depends on what I think of the opener and his ranges.</p>
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		By: foucault		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2012/02/mailbag-stack-size-goals/#comment-25356&quot;&gt;Dana&lt;/a&gt;.

I doubt anyone is deliberately taking a -EV spot except during the rebuy period (even that doesn&#039;t make sense to me) or perhaps in something very small buy-in to them that they don&#039;t want to waste time/screen space limping along on a short stack. Basically whatever they&#039;re doing probably is something you should try to imitate. I looked at Shaun&#039;s post and I don&#039;t see him making any mention of how the stack size goals influence his play. They&#039;re tacked on there but don&#039;t seem to be integrated into the guide at all, which would seem to support my point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2012/02/mailbag-stack-size-goals/#comment-25356">Dana</a>.</p>
<p>I doubt anyone is deliberately taking a -EV spot except during the rebuy period (even that doesn&#8217;t make sense to me) or perhaps in something very small buy-in to them that they don&#8217;t want to waste time/screen space limping along on a short stack. Basically whatever they&#8217;re doing probably is something you should try to imitate. I looked at Shaun&#8217;s post and I don&#8217;t see him making any mention of how the stack size goals influence his play. They&#8217;re tacked on there but don&#8217;t seem to be integrated into the guide at all, which would seem to support my point.</p>
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		By: Dana		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 04:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2012/02/mailbag-stack-size-goals/#comment-25356&quot;&gt;Dana&lt;/a&gt;.

I think your site doesn&#039;t accept links on post, but the deeb post is  
forumserver   twoplustwo  com  (slash) 23 (slash) small-stakes-mtt (slash) shauns-beginners-guide-180s-827]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2012/02/mailbag-stack-size-goals/#comment-25356">Dana</a>.</p>
<p>I think your site doesn&#8217;t accept links on post, but the deeb post is<br />
forumserver   twoplustwo  com  (slash) 23 (slash) small-stakes-mtt (slash) shauns-beginners-guide-180s-827</p>
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		By: Dana		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 04:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Andrew,
What do you think some of the MTT pros who play a high variance &quot;go big or go home&quot; style think re: stack size goals?  They play very aggressively to get big stacks early so I was wondering if stack goals was part of this.  
An example I thought of is when Shaun Deeb posted on how to play 180&#039;s he listed his stack goals for each level.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew,<br />
What do you think some of the MTT pros who play a high variance &#8220;go big or go home&#8221; style think re: stack size goals?  They play very aggressively to get big stacks early so I was wondering if stack goals was part of this.<br />
An example I thought of is when Shaun Deeb posted on how to play 180&#8217;s he listed his stack goals for each level.</p>
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		By: hans		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Andrew, thank you for your response, I agree now that setting goals for something that is out of my control is unrealistic. I think one of the questions I was trying to ask is this: &quot;When is it more EV+ to just shove as opposed to raising your regular 2.5BB raise?&quot;

Is there a general rule, if your raise is x% of your stack, then you might as well shove?

Also, what stack size do you find ideal for restealing? 

Thank you for your time, appreciate any help you can provide!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew, thank you for your response, I agree now that setting goals for something that is out of my control is unrealistic. I think one of the questions I was trying to ask is this: &#8220;When is it more EV+ to just shove as opposed to raising your regular 2.5BB raise?&#8221;</p>
<p>Is there a general rule, if your raise is x% of your stack, then you might as well shove?</p>
<p>Also, what stack size do you find ideal for restealing? </p>
<p>Thank you for your time, appreciate any help you can provide!</p>
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