This was from the $215 rebuy WCOOP. Villain is a Zoom regular, we’ve played a few hundred hands together there and I think he’s pretty good. I imagine he has some respect for me as well.
PokerStars – $200+$15|60/120 Ante 15 NL – Holdem – 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 17.19 BB
SB: 25.44 BB
BB: 69.54 BB
UTG: 143.37 BB
UTG+1: 68.83 BB
Hero (MP): 170.98 BB
MP+1: 67.21 BB
MP+2: 81.08 BB
CO: 120.99 BB
9 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 2.63 BB) Hero has Kh Ac
fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, fold, MP+2 calls 2 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1 BB
Flop : (7.63 BB, 3 players) Kc 7h 7c
BB checks, Hero bets 3.81 BB, fold, BB raises to 9.58 BB, Hero calls 5.78 BB
Turn : (26.79 BB, 2 players) 6c
BB bets 12 BB, Hero calls 12 BB
River : (50.79 BB, 2 players) Qs
BB bets 15.63 BB, Hero raises to 147.27 BB and is all-in, fold
Hero wins 82.04 BB
I had Villain covered by a lot, so my shove was actually for about 55 BB total, or 40 BB more to him.
What can he call you here with ? I guess he is even folding a middlish flush right ? (something like 98cc )
I don’t get it. AK isn’t the bottom of your range. You don’t call down the flop and turn with pocket pairs sometimes?
If I hadn’t seen the title I might have thought you were shoving for thin value. What *is* the purpose of the shove? Bluff him off of what exactly… trips? a flush? Seems like a pointless bluff, he wouldn’t fold those.
To me, his small river bet means cheap bluff, blocking bet with Kx/Qx, or maaaybe trips. If I were to bluff here I’d rather do it with 99 or Ax since those have far less showdown value than TPTK.
I dont agree with what you are saying JK : imo villain’s check raising range on that flop is made of 7x, low/middlish flush draws, good Ks like KQ and mayyyybe KJ…and after the turn and river you can see that AK loses vs all this range, that’s why AB shoves otr ( and Ak it is actually at the bottom of his range cause he plays KK QQ nut flush 76 77 this way, that’s why i really like this move…)
Imo in this spot every good thinking player is capable (should) of letting go a hand like 7x KQ or even a low flush here, simply because all these hands are simple bluffcatchers since none of them beat hero’s value shoving range.
My 2 cents
This is the thing that makes this so sexy. Andrew recognizes that he is indeed at the bottom of his turn calling range on this river.
No, Andrew would not have floated the turn with many pocket pairs worse than a king. I doubt he would float the flop with them too often, as opposed to AA AcX KX 7X XcYc hands. But then look at the river, QcQx is one of the few pocket pairs that Andrew can get to this river with. It boated up. His KQ combinations have also improved. His flush draws got there.
So Andrew has top two, aces, flushes, trips, and full houses on the river. TPTK is not a good hand, it is way way down the list.
Villain can’t call river with 76hh or even small flushes, not comfortably at least. Andrew blocks KK and the nut flush, making his hand the optimal bluff shove. You probably have to shove all AcKx combinations on the river in a balanced strategy, because AB definitely has QcQ 77 and KK that he needs to balance, in theory.
+1 to all of this; perfectly said.
The icing on the cake is that, given PF, villain is also less likely than hero to have KK/QQ (although I still like the bluff even without this favorable factor).
Given PF action villain is unlikely to have a super-nutted hand (his range is capped).
Does this coupled with villains river bet sizing influence the decision to bluff?
The bet on the turn seems relatively standard, but the river bet seems either a bit blocky or a value bet with a super-nutted hand which it is unlikely he has. Not sure about this?
I think if I was villain i might wonder a bit if I induced this shove with my river bet, as i mucked my 97.
This is why being out of position sucks and also why playing with a capped range sucks. If he has trips or a low flush, he only has a few options: shove and be called only when behind, check and face a shove from a range consisting of most better hands and some bluffs, or bet small and I hope I call with worse or at least don’t jam as a bluff. My point is that the only way he can avoid inducing a bluff is by putting in a lot of money against my better hands.