Episode 192: More Tommy Angelo

Tommy Angelo is back to talk about “speech play”, stalling, and other ways your opponents can annoy you at the table, if you let them. Plus we’ll get an update on his latest book, Painless Poker, and his meeting with Carlos Welch.

Be sure to check out Tommy’s new and improved website and follow him on Twitter. His earlier appearances on the podcast are here and here.

9 thoughts on “Episode 192: More Tommy Angelo”

  1. Obviously great stuff.

    I would have loved if you asked Tommy how a person processes “sub-conscious” information. How does the usefulness filter up into the mind?

    And the book isn’t out yet but I am dying to see how Painless poker and longterm emotional memory is related or not related. The idea being painful longterm memories are processed differently by the brain and really hard to “change” but act as a very useful source of information (at least sometimes).

    And even though I have read and seen a bunch of comments about the AA vs KK between the self-proclaimed speech play expert and the Canadian. In my mind Griffen Benger only makes that speech with AA. Easier said then done but it seems like a fold with KK. My point mostly being that Kassouf got out speech played in the end.

      • They use bits from:
        Hoodcat “Whereby the signatory” and “Spires”.
        The City on Repeat “Suicidal female poets”

        The weird thing if you listen to the album is that the Thinking Poker intro music comes at the end of the second-to-last song on it’s EP, whereas the Thinking Poker outro music is from the first song of its EP – so if you know the podcast but not the band it seems like the band have it backwards 🙂

        For more info on the see thinking poker podcast 40 – Sean Lango

  2. On this day, more than any other, it’s worth pointing out that what Tommy said about not giving opponents a way to tilt you is almost exactly the same as something Ayn Rand wrote in Atlas Shrugged, where Rearden realizes that the only weapon Lillain has against him is the one he gives her himself by reacting to her manipulation.

    Maybe the opposite sides of the spectrum are not always as far apart as they sometimes seem in the heat of the moment.

  3. Might need Tommy to fast track Painless Politics as his next book.

    Back in the early 2000s, near where I lived in London, there was a bar called ‘bar 150’. All the drinks were £1.50, which was cheap, even then. (The bar had sawdust on the floor, and garden furniture to sit on.) Anyway, we watched it become Bar 160, then Bar 170, then they gave up and changed the name to something else.

  4. Another great episode. Always good to hear from Tommy. Walking through the woods with Andrew and him was one of the highlights of my journey thus far. Love his perspective on just about everything.

    He taught us a neat little conversation piece about how most soaring birds are California condors, if I recall correct. He’ll be happy to know I tried to impress a girl with that bit of knowledge and she promptly called me a dork.

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