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		<title>UB Hall of Frauds</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A Hungarian poker site picked up on my recent post about money disappearing from my old UB account. Curious to see what they said, our Esteemed Webmistress ran it through Google Translate. Playing around with GT is always fun, and ... <a class="read-more" href="https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2011/02/ub-hall-of-frauds/">Read more...</a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href=" http://www.pokerstation.hu/poker-hirek/nemzetkozi-hirek/andrew-brokos-ultimate-bet-botranya/">A Hungarian poker site</a> picked up on my recent post about <a href="https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2011/02/money-disappears-and-reappears-in-old-ub-account/">money disappearing from my old UB account</a>. Curious to see what they said, our Esteemed Webmistress ran it through Google Translate. Playing around with GT is always fun, and I especially like seeing what happens when you translate from English into another language and then back to English.</p>
<p>In this case, GT employed much better phraseology than I did. This is an excerpt from the de-translation of the excerpt from my blog that was quoted in Hungarian on the site. Note the bolded phrase, which I swear I am not making up:</p>
<p>&#8220;<span><span>Yesterday I accidentally found it in a spam email in Mail, which informs me that my account is $ 1,040.26.</span><span>The letter 2010th</span> <span>February 19</span> <span>dátumozású was only yesterday, but stumbled as the spam filter caught.</span> <span>I thought this is something a refund of the <strong>UB Hall of frauds</strong>.&#8221;</span></span></p>
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		<title>Rats Flee Sinking Ship</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 17:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From Annie Duke&#8217;s website: It’s bittersweet, but I’ve decided to leave UB. I have nothing but positive things to say about UB and my experiences with the brand, management team, and dedicated employees who work hard every day to deliver ... <a class="read-more" href="https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/12/rats-flee-sinking-ship/">Read more...</a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From <a href="http://www.annieduke.com/2010/12/moving-on/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Annie Duke&#8217;s website</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>It’s bittersweet, but I’ve <a title="Annie Duke leaving UB" href="http://blog.ub.com/2010/12/annie-duke-leaving-ub-poker/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">decided to leave UB</a>.</p>
<p>I have nothing but positive things to say about UB and my experiences  with the brand, management team, and dedicated employees who work hard  every day to deliver a terrific online poker experience for players like  you.</p>
<p>I’ve sincerely enjoyed wearing the UB patch, but it’s time for me to move on.</p>
<p>So why am I leaving UB? In a nutshell, professional and personal growth.</p></blockquote>
<p>Translation: &#8220;They can&#8217;t afford to pay me and/or I don&#8217;t want to go to jail.&#8221; There&#8217;s been some speculation that perhaps Annie no longer wants to be associated with some of the biggest scumbags in the industry, but she&#8217;s stood by them for some time through a <a href="https://www.thinkingpoker.net/Blog/2008/05/ultimate-bet-superuser-scandal.html">huge cheating scandal</a> and repeated attempts to cover it up. Something has changed, and I&#8217;m guessing it&#8217;s their willingness or ability to pay her.</p>
<p>From <a href="http://www.philhellmuth.com/news/poker-tweets-blog/index.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Phil Hellmuth&#8217;s Twitter</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Making a BIG move&#8230;leaving UB. Truly lots of great memories, but it&#8217;s  time to move on&#8230;Mutual decision&#8230;Looking forward to BRIGHT future!</p></blockquote>
<p>The future&#8217;s so bright he has to wear shades&#8230; everywhere he goes&#8230; even indoors.</p>
<p>This one is less of a surprise. Phil was never as public in addressing UB&#8217;s problems as Annie was, and recently he&#8217;d stopped appearing in public with the UB logo.</p>
<p>Again, it&#8217;s hard for me to believe that this was purely a PR/branding decision. Although the man practically invented the idea of a poker celebrity, the UB brand was at its worst years ago but he is just now leaving. It was all about the money for him, even moreso than for Annie, and presumably they can no longer pay him what he believes himself to be worth.</p>
<p>These two announcements lend urgency to <a href="https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/12/the-reid-bill/">a warning I made earlier this month</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>When [disreputable sites like Cereus] decide to close up shop, it will likely be without warning,  and they may well take your money down with them. This wouldn’t even  have to entail outright theft, though I wouldn’t put that past them,  either. An unexpected occurrence such as a major crackdown on their  payment processors could render them suddenly illiquid. If you believe  that Cereus keeps player deposits in a separate account that is not used  for operating expenses, I have some real estate to sell you in  Florida….</p></blockquote>
<p>Joe Sebok is <a href="http://www.pokernews.com/news/2010/12/hellmuth-and-duke-out-at-ub-9577.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener">still drinking the Kool-Aid</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Speaking of Team UB, while it&#8217;s true that two of our members have moved  on, don&#8217;t think that we aren&#8217;t restocking the talent.  We&#8217;ll be  announcing our newest Team UB member next week and I am crazily pumped  about it.  UB has, and will continue to have, a whole new look and feel  for our team and our newest signing exemplifies that, so stay tuned for  that announcement next week.  Going to be a bit of a doozy.</p></blockquote>
<p>In related news, I&#8217;ve got a big announcement to make tomorrow <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f642.png" alt="🙂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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		<title>More Cereus Clownage</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 18:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Their flawless software that is now the best and most secure in the industry apparently produced this little gem in the UBOC O/8 event the other day. The bet sizes were all screwed up, enabling people to limp in for ... <a class="read-more" href="https://www.thinkingpoker.net/2010/08/more-cereus-clownage/">Read more...</a>]]></description>
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<p>Their flawless software that is now the best and most secure in the industry apparently produced this little gem in the UBOC O/8 event the other day. The bet sizes were all screwed up, enabling people to limp in for 15 at the 50/100 level, and for the player in the Big Blind to move all in. Their response was to cancel the tournament, refund buy-ins, and offer a freeroll for affected players with about $10,000 in UBOC championship event buy-ins added.</p>
<p>Thanks to <a href="http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/another-ub-software-glitch-861994/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">TwoPlusTwo poster FreeFalling</a> for this awesome image!</p>
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