Episode 348: Tells and Going with your Gut

In this solo episode, Andrew discusses multiway pots, bluff-catching, tells, and “going with your gut.”

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We are playing 2/5 NL at Texas Card House in Dallas. I have just recently moved up in stakes, taking a shot at the larger games. 2/5 here plays much more like a 5/10 or larger, with a 1000 starting cap with a match the largest stack rule when someone exceeds that. I sit down with my humble 1000 (which is all I am rolled for) and am the 3rd shortest stack at the table. Most players have around 3k or more, the largest stack is 6k.

45 min into the session I am up to 2300 and looking down at black 10s in the CO. There is an UTG straddle to 10$, one limp, and I raise to 50 when it folds to me. The SB flats, then the BB raises to 275. The straddle and limper get out of the way and I flat in position. The SB also smooth calls. Both players cover me. It is worth noting i’ve only been at the table for a short while at this point and have little to no read on these players, but they have done nothing out of the ordinary.

Pot is 845 and we go 3 ways to the flop, which is not the prettiest for me, AdKd7c. The SB thinks for a moment, then checks. The BB thinks for longer, then checks. I of course also check, and the flop has now checked through.

Huh.

I feel my play thus far is relatively uncontroversial, but feel free to discuss what might motivate the 3 better to check and not take the opportunity to utilize his range advantage or if there is any reason I should bet the flop here whatsoever.

Much to the surprise of all 3 of us, we go to the turn uncontested which comes an off suit 5 of spades. The SB now leads into both of us for 300. The BB tanks, and then folds. Huh. I admittedly get curious, if not a little stubborn, and decide to flat and see a river. This decision is likely very controversial, but here is my line of thinking: there are a lot of straight/flush draws out there and I heavily block the gutter that results in broadway. However, I also block a lot of the hands I am ahead of that may elect to bet as a bluff like J10s and Q10s, though those are unlikely holdings given the double smooth call preflop. I feel this type of preflop action weights the SB much more towards a middling pocket pair such as 99-55, possibly even the other two remaining 10s, that is attempting to set mine. I rule out larger pairs as they likely would have 3 bet themselves preflop. All that being said, a flopped or turned set of 77 or 55 would certainly take this line. But so might other hands such as 99, 88, or any other weak 1 pair holdings he is either overvaluing or attempting to steal the pot with after he sees the flop check through. I wonder how often I should call here at equilibrium, if at all, or if there are better bluff catch hands to make this call with such as K9s or something similar I may have here. Feel free to discuss and correct my logic.

The river comes a 2h, completing the full rainbow and board now sitting AdKd7c5s2h. Every draw bricks spectacularly. Pot is 1445, I am sitting with about 1725. I am expecting this to go check check the vast majority of the time. However, the SB does not oblige. He thinks a moment, asks how much I have left, and then elects to jam all the money in my face for 1.2x pot.

1 thought on “Episode 348: Tells and Going with your Gut”

  1. Interesting hand. It is very possible (likely?) that the BB folded the winning hand. QQ and JJ are certainly in his squeezing range. Also a hand like KQs could be as well. Why did this happen? The Squeezer got squeezed himself on the turn.

    Was this a good combo for Villain to bluff? I think it might have been. Hero ‘never’ has AA/KK and likely would bet 77 or AK on the flop. We block 55 (if that is in hero’s call/call range preflop). It looks like hero is capped at one pair, and will have a lot of river folds for this sizing. We also unblock diamonds.

    As hero notes, Villain has all 6 combos of sets in his range. If he turns 54s and 65s into a bluff that is also 6 combos.

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